tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post8437333318483070373..comments2023-06-16T08:16:44.247-07:00Comments on Oil Droppings: Live blog: Canada v. SwedenBrucehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-17708543093856635002009-05-08T17:02:00.000-06:002009-05-08T17:02:00.000-06:00I only watched from about the halfway point of the...I only watched from about the halfway point of the second period on, but I was focused on Omark and from what I saw:<br /><br />- he was out mostly against the St. Louis, Roy and Stamkos line<br />- the coach tossed him out for defensive zone draws; it was pretty much an even split between off. zone and def. zone.<br />- he can cycle and he's very strong on the puck; he was winning battles against much larger players<br />- he's crazy quick to pass; doesn't hang on to the puck when he's in danger, which both helps maintain possession and promote longevity<br />- he doesn't mind the danger areas<br />- he cheats for offense big-time<br />- he wasn't being used on the powerplay<br /><br />Of course, that's based on half an hour of game; does that match what other people have observed?Jonathan Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13939434026697781276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-5763198097905266432009-05-08T15:57:00.000-06:002009-05-08T15:57:00.000-06:00BG: Yup.BG: Yup.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-41131702186028928632009-05-08T15:48:00.000-06:002009-05-08T15:48:00.000-06:00it was way more effective than it was pretty.
Wha...<I>it was way more effective than it was pretty</I>.<br /><br />What a perfect way to describe everything 10 does. :)Black Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820420351344515177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-77233950091115918202009-05-08T14:51:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:51:00.000-06:00BG: That whole last period was a huge battle for t...BG: That whole last period was a huge battle for the puck, much of it along the boards and blueline in the Canadian end. On that last shift Horc at least was holding his own in there, even as he couldn't get it cleanly over the line; neither could a whole bunch of Canadians under similar circumstances all period as the Swedes really poured it on. But he battled hard, never got beat nor gave the puck away at any point, eventually took part in the breakout, made the safe shoot-in and change. It was a hard shift of defensive hockey, the clock ticked down, no scoring chances resulted, and the puck was cleared. <br /><br />Canada was in trouble until they raised their effort to match the Swedes' and at least saw-off the ongoing puck battle. Horc's last shift was an example of such a saw-off; it was way more effective than it was pretty.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-76934948209214126992009-05-08T14:32:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:32:00.000-06:00Not that he had a bad game, but his last shift sto...Not that he had a bad game, but his last shift stood out for me.<br />Has anyone watched much of USA and POS?<br />I see he's getting points and a ton of ice time, but how's he looking..Black Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820420351344515177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-51170996615842289742009-05-08T14:30:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:30:00.000-06:00Horcoff was looking a little violent along the boa...Horcoff was looking a little violent along the boards there with about 1:30 left to go.<br />Certainly more violent than effective, haha. He definitely looked like he hasn't had to break out as a winger since about peewee hockey.Black Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820420351344515177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-61414954344742690022009-05-08T14:28:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:28:00.000-06:00Yeah!!! Horc notches the game winner, Roli builds ...Yeah!!! Horc notches the game winner, Roli builds a brick wall between the pipes, and Canada rolls on to the Gold Medal Game. <br /><br />Go Canada! Goilers!Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-58238861114620741772009-05-08T14:22:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:22:00.000-06:00Another bonehead pass into the slot, this time by ...Another bonehead pass into the slot, this time by Fisher. I'm on the exact same page as Dave Reid on this one. Those are chances you take when you're down by two, not when you're ahead.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-39578073501068674722009-05-08T14:18:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:18:00.000-06:00Bonehead pass by Armstrong there.Bonehead pass by Armstrong there.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-63077262688602936882009-05-08T14:17:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:17:00.000-06:00OK, let me rephrase that: that's like trading Tomm...OK, let me rephrase that: that's like trading Tommy Albelin for a young Chris Pronger. :)Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-89770344866434479762009-05-08T14:15:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:15:00.000-06:00Oh c'mon, Coburn for Zhitnik is a much worse trade...Oh c'mon, Coburn for Zhitnik is a much worse trade. That was like trading an old Smid for a young Pronger. No other assets either, just one-for-one. Moreover, Zhitnik had 3 years left at $3.5 MM per; Coburn had three years left for $3.5 TOTAL. <br /><br />Probably the single worst theft of the new millennium.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-8946490849332839072009-05-08T14:14:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:14:00.000-06:00Did Heatley just make a defensive play there? I w...Did Heatley just make a defensive play there? I wasn't paying attention.Doogie2Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14703778878103452453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-54201930944482341382009-05-08T14:13:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:13:00.000-06:00I haven't been this nervous with a two goal lead s...<I>I haven't been this nervous with a two goal lead since last year's gold medal game. Egads.</I>Game 4 of the WHL Eastern Conference Final. It's not every day you see a team hock up a 5-0 lead to barely hang on for the 6-4 win.Doogie2Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14703778878103452453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-23830990660553650822009-05-08T14:12:00.001-06:002009-05-08T14:12:00.001-06:00How did that go for him this year? I think his PTS...<I>How did that go for him this year? I think his PTS/60 was sandwiched in between Smack and Reddox</I>.<br /><br />Yet he still outscored going head-to-head with the other team's best.<br /><br /><I>He certainly didn't do as well as when he had Reasoner and Stoll taking the brunt of the tough minutes but he certainly gets the rep for it</I>.<br /><br />Calling bullshit. Having options in Stoll and Reasoner helped greatly (i.e. #10 didn't have to take EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DEFENSIVE ZONE DRAW), but for their tenure here, Horcoff was still the number 1 tough minutes option nine nights out of ten. <br /><br />Saying otherwise is a flat-out line and is akin to those people who talked about Peca doing such a great job as the shut-down center in the 2006 playoffs (he wasn't the guy going head-to-head with Joe Thornton and Henrik Zetterberg, last time I checked).HBombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00698318464039120244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-48069295081283727822009-05-08T14:12:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:12:00.000-06:00Great PK shift from Horc there, worked his ass off...Great PK shift from Horc there, worked his ass off for 30 seconds and made a real heads-up change on a sliver of an opportunity to get fresh legs out there.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-11794858313363099932009-05-08T14:10:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:10:00.000-06:00I haven't been this nervous with a two goal lead s...I haven't been this nervous with a two goal lead since last year's gold medal game. Egads.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-33103105450722772592009-05-08T14:08:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:08:00.000-06:00"Horc actually plays the other teams top line rath..."Horc actually plays the other teams top line rather than having a rep for doing it while Alfie or the Sedin's take care of business."<br /><br />How did that go for him this year? I think his PTS/60 was sandwiched in between Smack and Reddox.<br /><br />He certainly didn't do as well as when he had Reasoner and Stoll taking the brunt of the tough minutes but he certainly gets the rep for it.Traktorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05742119009000773867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-51687618249802863532009-05-08T14:06:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:06:00.000-06:00That's "not getting Getzlaf for Pronger" bad right...<I>That's "not getting Getzlaf for Pronger" bad right there.</I>I'm not gonna defend the trade but Lowe was in a position when he had to trade Pronger whereas why Waddel wanted to trade Coburn is beyond me.slopitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09154474610448142182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-69813846250932083722009-05-08T14:05:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:05:00.000-06:00This game will be easier to win if we played 6 min...This game will be easier to win if we played 6 minutes in each zone rather than all 20 in one. Doan of all people lost about three battles along the boards there resulting in a tunover before the red line, and the Swedes just came right back in again.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-28688931930193143962009-05-08T14:03:00.001-06:002009-05-08T14:03:00.001-06:00Holy crap, where was the D on that goal? How do y...Holy crap, where was the D on that goal? How do you have two guys that open in the low slot like that?Doogie2Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14703778878103452453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-19669011977170982482009-05-08T14:03:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:03:00.000-06:00This game is a l-o-n-g way from being over.
And ...This game is a l-o-n-g way from being over. <br /><br />And before I can hit "publish", Sweden scores. <br /><br />The team in blue has absolutely Owned this period.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-56127464685530842512009-05-08T14:00:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:00:00.000-06:00Then again I've been saying Fisher is the superior...<I>Then again I've been saying Fisher is the superior center for years and he plays a very similar style to Kesler.</I>Except Horcoff is significantly superior defensively to both, being he actually plays the other teams top line rather than having a rep for doing it while Alfie or the Sedin's take care of business.PDOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05659921012095646002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-86217938731831069272009-05-08T13:59:00.001-06:002009-05-08T13:59:00.001-06:00And (sigh) Danny SyvretSyvret! Finished 2nd in sco...<I>And (sigh) Danny Syvret</I>Syvret! Finished 2nd in scoring for D-men in the AHL this year with 57 points. He even managed to be +7. Take that! Robbie.Ribshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04163905885771636021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-3375903176809544352009-05-08T13:59:00.000-06:002009-05-08T13:59:00.000-06:00Traktor: Kesler had a "career" year this year and ...Traktor: Kesler had a "career" year this year and scored 59 points. Horcoff's gone over 70 once and was on pace to hit that plateau in 2007-08 before injury.<br /><br />Three years from now, you may be right. But right now? Horcoff's the proven power-vs-power guy with a better history of offensive production. Grit? Kesler's one of the grittiest guys in the damn league, so of course there's no comparison there.HBombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00698318464039120244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648556457874572949.post-90866772314377300532009-05-08T13:57:00.000-06:002009-05-08T13:57:00.000-06:00Bruce: You know what's amazing?
Mike Green didn't...Bruce: You know what's amazing?<br /><br />Mike Green didn't make that 2005 team, even though he was eligible.<br /><br />And all he did this season was score goals at a freakish rate for a d-man. <br /><br />The guy I like that doesn't get enough credit is Coburn. He's turned into a nice stopper D-man in Philly. How Don Waddell wasn't fired on the spot for trading him for Alexei f'n Zhitnik is beyond me. That's "not getting Getzlaf for Pronger" bad right there.HBombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00698318464039120244noreply@blogger.com